Nissan GT-R! - Page 5

sniperofbuffalo · #61 (**permalink**) 10-21-2008, 01:35 AM

yes, invented by Mercedes before Ford owned it and Ford did really invent the assembly line, he took ideas from other assemby lines and created the modern version we use now. The internal combustion engine was invented by a German; the inflatable tire was invented by a Scot; the EGR system was invented Japs; the oxygen sensor was invented by Japs also; the MacPherson suspension system was invented by a Brit; the manual transmission was invented by French; need i go on? And Im German-American, German is first.

And taxing the rich is better than cutting taxes for big businesses, most of whomb put is in this market meltdown with shady practices and the rich have enough money. And have you notice that McCain keeps changing things? he didn't admit the economy was failing until last month nd he keeps changing his methods of fixing it. Not to mention he plans to lift the ban on drilling and such while he cuts funding for alternate fuels. He has also been supporting racism and the moral fundamentals that this country didn't grow to support until the 50s til now, and many stillhavent got the picture and many are going back to racism. lets see... that **** about spending time with a terrorist was bull, they served on a school board together and other big names spent time with the terrorist as well, some of them republicans as well.

Have you also noticed that McCain never released his health and psych records? We dont even know if he's healthy enough or sane enough for the presidency, especially him being a POW durng Nam. And he also plans on starting more wars, this just as this one is weakening our forces because we dont belong there and were there under false pretences, Saddam had nothing to do with 9-11 and neither are we there for our freedom. Bush decided to turn the ther cheek on Bin Laden and focus everyone's attention on Saddam and ****, even though it has been proven that Bush had advanced knowledge of the attacks of 9-11. Instead of being in Iraq we should be focusing on the Beaners that are invading us, they are the real terrorists and they are also the ones weakenig our economy by stealing welfare and foodstamps and other services meant for real americans.

And you may wonder why democrats and indepenents hate Republicans, cuz you Republicans are retarded and don't think despite you are mostly rich/wealthy.

apolloGT · #62 (**permalink**) 10-21-2008, 04:16 PM

Your politics are dumb as hell, so it doesn't even merit a response from me. But I think it's funny that you call McCain a racist and you're a white kid using the n-word (in your other posts) and saying "Jap" and "beaner". You've got to be kidding me.

That's cool that you named 5 things that other countries invented, you should be really proud. If you even have a response to me, move it to the politics thread. Seriously, I have no tolerance for people like you. If you don't like it, live off welfare in Germany and enjoy yourself there. Instead of getting smoked by Mustangs and Camaros, you'll get a beating from R32s and old M3s.

I apologize to everyone that this is so off topic, but I can't let a cute little spout off like that go. Sniper, move it to the politics thread.

ShelbyCobra2007 · #63 (**permalink**) 12-31-2008, 02:01 AM

Well yes, I am a GT-R hater. I think they are extremely overrated,, and arent that fast at all. After viewing this video,, I think they are even slower. Im not sure what the top speed on a GT 500 like mine thats got 1000$ worth of mods and 530rwhp will do, but im sure it will go to 160mph faster than a GT-R. Im not trying to hate anyone whos buys one, its just in my opinion being named car of the year is the worlds biggest mistake.

YouTube - GT-R Hits 190+ MPH! - 2009 Nissan GT-R Top Speed Run

NickMerrone · #64 (**permalink**) 01-01-2009, 05:49 PM

all i have to say is 0-60 in 3.2 secs from what ive heard. thats sure to smoke most ferraris and lamborginis, as well as camaros and stuff. damn

apolloGT · #65 (**permalink**) 01-01-2009, 06:47 PM

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all i have to say is 0-60 in 3.2 secs from what ive heard. thats sure to smoke most ferraris and lamborginis, as well as camaros and stuff. damn

That time was with launch control, which is removed for 09 and beyond (due to transmission failure after 10-20 uses). Without launch control, the GTR is good for a 3.9 0-60. Still fast, yes, but not enough to keep up with the big boys.

SuperchargedXJ · #66 (**permalink**) 01-01-2009, 07:02 PM

I would say that 3.9 seconds to 60 is still rather impressive, and certainly qualifies the GT-R for "big boy" status.
Also, I wouldn't be surprised if they figure out some other method to get the car back to it's sub 3.5 time...

NickMerrone · #67 (**permalink**) 01-01-2009, 07:08 PM

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Originally Posted by apolloGT

That time was with launch control, which is removed for 09 and beyond (due to transmission failure after 10-20 uses). Without launch control, the GTR is good for a 3.9 0-60. Still fast, yes, but not enough to keep up with the big boys.

Oh yeah. completely forgot about that and like the trans costs about 20k i read. haha. thats ridiculous if thats the serious price.

apolloGT · #68 (**permalink**) 01-02-2009, 12:28 AM

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Originally Posted by SuperchargedXJ

I would say that 3.9 seconds to 60 is still rather impressive, and certainly qualifies the GT-R for "big boy" status.
Also, I wouldn't be surprised if they figure out some other method to get the car back to it's sub 3.5 time...

Agree to disagree. 3 years ago, sure.. but half a second in any sort of racing is a big deal. Look at the difference between gen 3 and 4 Dodge Vipers (500hp v 600hp). The generation 3 Vipers got a beating by Z06s, and they did 3.9 to 60mph. The gen 4 Vipers best the Z06, and they clock 3.4s. Of course this is not just an acceleration game, and the AWD of the GTR certainly makes it more track capable than a generation 3 viper. What I'm saying is, I think it was a bit overhyped. I'm sure it's an incredible car.. I saw one on the road from a distance and it looked awesome.. but as far as stoplights are concerned...(I know the odds of encountering a faster car are extremely low, but there's nothing that can make a person feel crappy like spending $100K on a super car and then losing to an equivalently priced machine.)

SuperchargedXJ · #69 (**permalink**) 01-02-2009, 04:04 AM

Hmm, well the 2009 GT-R is Motor Trend's car of the year... they are showing it's 0-60 time as 3.3 seconds, so it must still have the launch control... I think the plan is to drop it for 2010.
I think for $78,000 this supercar is a bargain.
I'll quote Motor Trend: " Can any match the Nissan's level of performance? Nope. The Z06 comes close, but close in a race only means second place."

sccavette · #70 (**permalink**) 01-02-2009, 10:01 AM

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Originally Posted by SuperchargedXJ

Hmm, well the 2009 GT-R is Motor Trend's car of the year... they are showing it's 0-60 time as 3.3 seconds, so it must still have the launch control... I think the plan is to drop it for 2010.
I think for $78,000 this supercar is a bargain.
I'll quote Motor Trend: " Can any match the Nissan's level of performance? Nope. The Z06 comes close, but close in a race only means second place."

LOLOL You need to spend some time in the GT-R forum and see what the real story behind the car is. here is a few clif notes for you without going into a long story. If you want more information on any of the points I will be glad to explain.

1. The 3.3 IS with LC and the car is not capable of the 0-60 times without it. The owners of the production cars are reporting 4.0 - 4.2 times from their cars.

2. The cars that were sent to the mags were ringers and they drove some production cars and all agreed they were not as fast as the cars that Nissan sent them to test and were told NOT to dyno.

3. I agree 78K would be a good buy IF it could be considered a super car in street trim and it holds together and if you have problems they stand behind it. This car has problems and they know it and they will NOT stand behind the car and fix it when it breaks.

4. The quote was from the inital test of the ringers that were sent to them and I am sure they regret saying that after Nissan was cought by Porsche cheating around the ring to pull faster numbers than the Z and the 911.

The GT-R is a neat and pretty quick car. The problem is they went after a group of cars that it could not run with and tried to pull some tricks to make the car a super car when ib reality it is not.

apolloGT · #71 (**permalink**) 01-02-2009, 01:43 PM

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2. The cars that were sent to the mags were ringers and they drove some production cars and all agreed they were not as fast as the cars that Nissan sent them to test and were told NOT to dyno.

3. I agree 78K would be a good buy IF it could be considered a super car in street trim and it holds together and if you have problems they stand behind it. This car has problems and they know it and they will NOT stand behind the car and fix it when it breaks.

2. Some of these cars dynoed significantly higher, and some dynoed at factory ratings, so this point is still disputed. I agree though, it is quite fishy.

3. They aren't going for less than $100K here, and yes the LC is a major problem. Even if it was $78K, for $10K more (which if you can afford 78 you can afford 88), you can get a 600hp Viper that is higher performing.. but the thing about the viper is.. you have to drive it! No automatics! (kudos for any supercar owners and car companies who opt for the 6 on the floor.. the best way to do it.)

NickMerrone · #72 (**permalink**) 01-02-2009, 02:08 PM

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2. Some of these cars dynoed significantly higher, and some dynoed at factory ratings, so this point is still disputed. I agree though, it is quite fishy.

3. They aren't going for less than $100K here, and yes the LC is a major problem. Even if it was $78K, for $10K more (which if you can afford 78 you can afford 88), you can get a 600hp Viper that is higher performing.. but the thing about the viper is.. you have to drive it! No automatics! (kudos for any supercar owners and car companies who opt for the 6 on the floor.. the best way to do it.)

Or for like alot under 78k you could get a R34 At jdm depot in south philly. Or for more get one imported from japan. haha. That way you dont have an ugly unreliable fast car. You have a sexy, fast RB26, that is probably alot more reliable.

apolloGT · #73 (**permalink**) 03-01-2009, 01:40 PM

superz28 and I were crusing in the CTS-V on Saturday night, and we spotted this brand new, gorgeous, white GTR off the lot. Here are some pics. (The V looks so tame next to the GTR! Not that it's much of a screamer looks wise, the V still looks aggressive compared to most cars.. but not this one!)

http://www.gearsgarage.com/file/pic/.../3850_view.jpg

http://www.gearsgarage.com/file/pic/.../3849_view.jpg

http://www.gearsgarage.com/file/pic/.../3848_view.jpg

kendallcschm · #74 (**permalink**) 03-01-2009, 04:23 PM

ok my turn to input my bull... ok why would you spend 78K for a car that is not going to be considered a supercar when you can slap a Kenne bell in a mustang GT500 and make 750HP.. and with more mods maybe even more HP... or you could get a super car for 60K.. you could get a FFR GTM with a LS7 engine in it and go from 0-60 in 3 seconds flat?? even better just buy the rest of the car leave out the engine and but a ford racing ford GT engine and slap that in.. then put a kenne ball on that and make a total for 750HP and have an only 2350 LBS car??? all these other faster and better options.. why name that nissan car of the year??? get a ford GT.. or a GTX1.. or a corvette and twin turbo it.. so many things that are way better.. and all these options... they are all cheaper except for the ford GT and GTX1.. and not to mention no launch control and tranny problems

YouTube - What's the price of a dream?

Johnnyboy · #75 (**permalink**) 03-01-2009, 07:44 PM

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Originally Posted by kendallcschm

ok my turn to input my bull... ok why would you spend 78K for a car that is not going to be considered a supercar when you can slap a Kenne bell in a mustang GT500 and make 750HP.. and with more mods maybe even more HP... or you could get a super car for 60K.. you could get a FFR GTM with a LS7 engine in it and go from 0-60 in 3 seconds flat?? even better just buy the rest of the car leave out the engine and but a ford racing ford GT engine and slap that in.. then put a kenne ball on that and make a total for 750HP and have an only 2350 LBS car??? all these other faster and better options.. why name that nissan car of the year??? get a ford GT.. or a GTX1.. or a corvette and twin turbo it.. so many things that are way better.. and all these options... they are all cheaper except for the ford GT and GTX1.. and not to mention no launch control and tranny problems

YouTube - What's the price of a dream?

It would smoke a supercharged GT500 around a circuit.
It's cheaper than Ford GT as you mentioned.
The FFR GTM isn't an everyday driver, and many may not trust a relatively unknown manufacturer.

... not that I'd buy a GTR. I really like it, but like you, there are other options that I would prefer for the price.... although I'd take a GTR over anything you listed at the GTR's price.

To each his own